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Mak Shui Ka

Oral history interview conducted by Ka-Kam Chui

November 13, 1993

Call number: 1994.007.15

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0:09 - 开场白:介绍受访者、地址、日期、及采访人 Introduction of narrator and interviewer’s names, interview location, and date

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1:12 - 名字由来,家族历史,家族相册 Origins of her name, family history, and a family album

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10:03 - 1987 年布鲁克林反华运动,华人反击,华人妇联会 1987 Brooklyn: anti-Chinese incident & Chinese community's defense; joining a labor union

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26:30 - 反华事件之前街区的情况,邻里关系 Situation of the block before the incident in her community; relationship with neighbors

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30:02 - 街区的变化, 受访人现在的生活 Changes of the block in her community; changes in her life circa 1993

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47:21 - 起诉曼哈顿唐人街王孔旺事件中警察违法行为 Charges of police misconduct in incident of Hung-Wong Wong in Manhattan's Chinatown

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64:24 - 与日落公园的警察打交道,比较曼哈顿唐人街的警察 Dealing with the police in Sunset Park, compared with those in Manhattan's Chinatown

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66:43 - 为什么搬来日落公园,居住环境, 日落公园的华人居民 Why move to Sunset Park, living envrionment, Chinese residents in Sunset Park

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84:46 - 布鲁克林犯罪状况,将来发展,附近工厂 In Brooklyn: description of crime, future development, factories nearby

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99:43 - 子女自己在曼哈顿居住的地区,环境、租金 Manhattan areas where her grown children live on their own; environment & rent

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121:32 - 第八大道社区需要改善的地方,华人社团的合作,医疗 8th Ave. area's improvement needs, cooperation among Chinese community org.'s, Medicare

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128:54 - 受访者在大陆学中西医、做护士的经历 Her learning of Chinese and Western medicine and being a nurse in mainland China

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134:31 - 受访者家庭背景,去广州、台山、香港、岭南读书 Interviewee's family background; studying in Guangzhou, Taishan, Hong Kong and Lingnan

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150:50 - 回乡下小学教书 Her return to her Chinese village where she taught in primary school

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158:35 - 转去另一个学校教书,解放后做税务稽查 Her switch to another school, and being a tax inspector after liberation in China

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173:20 - 保送去广州读高中,不适应,转去学医 Being recommended to high school, and not fitting in; then a switch to medical school

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181:55 - 毕业后去郑州工作 Going to work in Zhengzhou, China after graduation

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Interview Description

Oral History Interview with Mak Shui Ka

Mak Shui Ka was born in Naahn Sehk Village, in China's Guangdong Province, to a wealthy, prominent family. She grew up with servants and attended the country's most prestigious schools. Her family's fortunes reversed during the opium suppression effort, which drove the family business into the ground, and the Communist "liberation," which repossessed her family's estate and brought persecution to her father. Ka relocated to America and eventually settled with her husband and three children in New York City. In Brooklyn, Ka took on odd jobs and experienced poverty for the first time. She persevered and joined the Seamstresses' Union, the Coalition of Women, and became a community organizer; championing the Sunset Park neighborhood of Brooklyn's Chinese community and pursuing antidiscrimination activity. At the time of the 1993 interview, Ka lived happily in Sunset Park with her husband; her three adult children lived nearby.

In this interview, Mak Shui Ka discusses her life's history in Communist China; upbringing, schools, her family, and persecution, as well as her successes as a conscripted cadet. Mrs. Ka describes her life in America, which brought her first experiences with poverty and grave anti-Chinese discrimination. She describes an extensive anti-Chinese pogrom waged by the Italian members of the Sunset Park neighborhood of Brooklyn. In response, Ka helped organize a community protest event and delivered a speech that vowed constant vigilance. She details extensively another incident of discrimination in which police stormed an apartment in the Chinatown neighborhood of Manhattan, then beat the family inside; including a pregnant woman. Ka was called as a community first responder; taking photographs and witness testimony, and helped prosecute the police members. In relation to Sunset Park, Ka also references her real estate transactions, the rent prices and taxes, and neighborhood crime. Interview in Cantonese conducted by Ka-Kam Chui.

Brooklyn Historical Society collaborated with the Chinatown History Museum (now the Museum of Chinese in America) in order to conduct a series of oral histories with residents of the Sunset Park neighborhood of Brooklyn. The Cantonese, Mandarin, and English language interviews focused on what was then a new presence of Chinese and Asian immigrants concentrated along Eighth Avenue. Among the topics that are explored in the interviews are tensions between different groups of Chinese immigrants, crime and safety in the neighborhood, Sunset Park's relationship to Manhattan's Chinatown, and how long-term residents of Sunset Park had adjusted to the area's "newcomers."

Citation

Ka, Mak Shui, Oral history interview conducted by Ka-Kam Chui, November 13, 1993, New Neighbors: Sunset Park's Chinese Community records, 1994.007.15; Brooklyn Historical Society.

People

  • Ka, Mak Shui
  • Koch, Ed, 1924-
  • Mak, Paul

Topics

  • Chinese Americans
  • Community activists
  • Crime
  • Emigration and immigration
  • Ethnic neighborhoods
  • Ethnic relations
  • History
  • Immigrants
  • Police brutality
  • Police-community relations
  • Racism
  • Real property

Places

  • Brooklyn (New York, N.Y.)
  • China
  • Chinatown (Brooklyn, New York, N.Y.)
  • Chinatown (New York, N.Y.)
  • Guangdong Sheng (China)
  • Guangzhou (China)
  • Sunset Park (New York, N.Y.)

Finding Aid

New Neighbors: Sunset Park's Chinese Community records